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===Tasks===
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===Reference Material===
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*[http://bmwmotorcycletech.info/electricalhints.htm Electrical Hints] at BMW Motorcycle Tech.info.  Very thorough and informative reference to electrical systems.
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* [http://revivalcycles.com/ Revival Cycles] Lots of nice/clean/minimal parts and they have a really nice electrical system overhaul package.
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* [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=52HRAhAzrBE Chris Harris youtube vid on removing engine from an AirHead]
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* [http://bmwmotorcycletech.info/setvalves.htm Article on valve adjustment and rocker arm endplay]
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* [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VExx_2kIc9c Chris Harris youtube vid on valve clearance and rocker arm endplay adjustment]
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==Tasks==
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201408:
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*oil filter (SCP) & 20W50 oil
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*joining compound for cylinder/case interface
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*black silicon for pushrod rubber bits.
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*at the cylinder/head gasket [http://www.gasgacinch.com/gasgacinch_002.htm GaskeaCinch]
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*?anything in addition to the valve cover gaskets?
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Older:
 
* Check w/ Gene at Moto Loco on powder coat pricing breakout
 
* Check w/ Gene at Moto Loco on powder coat pricing breakout
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* Check w/ Channing about using his powder coat gear.
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** Guestimate $600-1K for a big pile.
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* Adrian also suggested Shelby at Santa Barbara Industrial Metal Finishing in Goleta, he'd probably be good for non-frame stuff w/out tight tolerances.
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*[http://www.gastanklining.com/index.html Gas tank cleaning and lining] North Hollywood - $195 + 50% off second tank (for odd HDavidson tanks).
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===Machining===
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*flatten heads to mate w/ valve covers
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*polish cylinders, heads, valve covers
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** Should the stainless pushrod tubes be installed before or after polish?
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*Pushrods have slight score marks mid-length, some worse than others.  Huh?
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*Replace valve seats [http://www.beemershop.com Here]
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===Replacement Parts===
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*head gaskets
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*O-Rings for cylinder head (4 small at bolts and 2 big on cylinder)
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*valve cover seals
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*push-rod tube seals
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*center stand springs
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*rear brake switch
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*oil pressure/neutral sender and wire
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*fork cartridge update.
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**fork seals
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*Wheel bearing seals and wheel bearings
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====Stainless====
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*SS Engine mount bolts
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*SS bolt/nut kit
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===Related Vids and articles===
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*Piston ring compression [http://w6rec.com/duane/bmw/piston/ringtool.htm]
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*Pushrod tube seal replacement - Part 1 of 3 (Chris fucking Harris)[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A47LiKSYD9o]
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*Useful maintenance tips - R80 [http://jhau.maliwi.de/mot/index.htm]
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==Parts==
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===Controls===
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====Levers and Perches====
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*[http://www.lowbrowcustoms.com/p776/buy/m-c-parts/wheels-tires-amp-brakes/universal/brakes/lcfabrications-universal-brake-fluid-reservoir-brass-amp-aluminum/ Brass & Aluminum brake reservoir]
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*[http://www.dimecitycycles.com/vintage-caferacer-cafe-racer-bobber-brat-chopper-custom-motorcycle-brake-parts-black-aluminum-nissin-retro-hydraulic-front-brake-master-cylinder-717-654e.html Nissin Brake lever/master cylinder and brake switch] $189
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====Switches====
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*[http://www.dimecitycycles.com/vintage-cafe-racer-caferacer-bobber-brat-chopper-custom-motorcycle-electronic-parts-black-handlebar-mounted-headlight-on-off-starter-switch-12-0203.html Right side "Simple & Clean" On/Off & Starter Switch] $30
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*[http://www.bikebandit.com/k-s-compact-motorcycle-multi-switch Left side controls]
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** ''1 1/8" Wide''
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**High Beam LED
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====Throttle====
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* Two cables is for PushPull mechanisms.  Some controls can serve either single or PushPull.
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*[http://www.dimecitycycles.com/vintage-caferacer-cafe-racer-bobber-brat-chopper-custom-motorcycle-handlebar-control-parts-biltwell-whiskey-throttle-black-aluminum-single-cable-wt-alu-78-bk.html Black Aluminum Biltwell "Whiskey" Throttle - (7/8", Single Cable)] $95 looks to mtc like the best quality single.
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*[http://www.dimecitycycles.com/vintage-cafe-racer-caferacer-bobber-brat-chopper-custom-motorcycle-handlebar-parts-chrome-single-cable-aluminum-throttle-assembly-28-0033.html 7/8" Single Cable Throttle Assembly] $16
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*[http://www.dimecitycycles.com/vintage-cafe-racer-caferacer-bobber-brat-chopper-custom-motorcycle-throttle-parts-black-nylon-throttle-assembly-68-2an.html 7/8" Light-weight Nylon Throttle Assembly and Grips - (Gloss Black)] $13
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*[http://www.dimecitycycles.com/vintage-cafe-racer-caferacer-bobber-brat-chopper-custom-motorcycle-throttle-parts-oem-style-satin-black-honda-throttle-assembly-44-9777.html
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*[http://www.motionpro.com/motorcycle/tools/featured/revolver/ Motion Pro] Dual Cables.
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*[http://www.venhillusa.com/Universal-Cable-Kits-c742/ Cable kits] Ordered kits for clutch and throttle.
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*[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=axGTa0SvXjE Throttle cable how to]
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====Brakes====
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*[http://www.rizoma.com/universal/fluid-tanks/en Rizoma]: Brake fluid reservoir really clean/minimal design.  50-80 euros.
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*[http://www.venhillusa.com/Venhill-Custom-Shop/Venhill-Braided-Stainless-Steel-Brake-Line-Custom-Make-Your-Own-Brake-Line-KitOne-Line-with-Stainless-Steel-Fittings-p705.html Another option for stainless braided brake lines.] Check out the "carbon" color.
  
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==More Parts==
  
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===Parts===
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====Brakes====
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*[http://www.amazon.com/EBC-Brakes-MD606LS-Brake-Rotor/dp/B006B25PE2 Front brake rotor]
 
====Bars====
 
====Bars====
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*[http://www.dimecitycycles.com/vintage-cafe-racer-caferacer-bobber-brat-chopper-custom-motorcycle-parts-satin-black-drag-bars-23-12570-sbpc.html Satin Black Drag Bars in 7/8"] $25.
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*[http://www.dimecitycycles.com/vintage-cafe-racer-caferacer-bobber-brat-chopper-custom-motorcycle-handlebars-parts-satin-black-supermoto-bars-23-12571s.html Satin Black Supermoto Bars in 7/8"] $25
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*[http://www.dimecitycycles.com/vintage-cafe-racer-caferacer-bobber-brat-chopper-custom-motorcycle-handlebar-parts-black-aluminum-low-superbike-bars-80-0627.html Satin Black Renthal Ultra-Low Superbike bars in 7/8"] $65.
 
* [http://www.protaper.com/products/handlebars/ Answer ProTaper Bars]
 
* [http://www.protaper.com/products/handlebars/ Answer ProTaper Bars]
 
** dimensions:
 
** dimensions:
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*** looking for minimal rise. (20-30mm)
 
*** looking for minimal rise. (20-30mm)
  
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====Switches====
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====Lights====
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*[http://www.bikebandit.com/k-s-compact-motorcycle-multi-switch Left side controls]
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*[http://www.dimecitycycles.com/vintage-cafe-racer-caferacer-bobber-brat-chopper-custom-motorcycle-handlebar-parts-black-led-bar-ends-15-1010.html Bar end blinkers] $50 Can we clamp mirrors to them?
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** ''1 1/8" Wide''
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*[http://www.britishracer.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=1866 Retro LED Blinkers] 61.50 Euro
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**High Beam LED
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*[http://www.dimecitycycles.com/vintage-cafe-racer-caferacer-bobber-brat-chopper-custom-motorcycle-electronic-lighting-parts-mini-retro-gloss-black-led-bullet-turn-signals-blinkers-ag330-537-blk.html Gloss Balck retro bullet LED turn signals] $130... yikes!
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*[http://www.dimecitycycles.com/vintage-cafe-racer-caferacer-bobber-brat-chopper-custom-motorcycle-electronic-lighting-parts-mini-retro-scarab-turn-signals-blinkers-26-6216.html LED "Scarab" Turn Signals - (Satin Black & Clear)] $50
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====Throttle Control====
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*[http://www.dimecitycycles.com/vintage-cafe-racer-caferacer-bobber-brat-chopper-custom-motorcycle-electronic-lighting-parts-mini-black-topedo-turn-signals-blinkers-60-1900s.html Mini LED "Torpedo" Turn Signals - (Black & Smoke)] $35
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*[http://www.motionpro.com/motorcycle/tools/featured/revolver/ Motion Pro]
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*[http://www.dimecitycycles.com/vintage-cafe-racer-caferacer-bobber-brat-chopper-custom-motorcycle-electronic-lighting-parts-mini-black-oval-turn-signals-blinkers-26-6219.html Mini LED Oval Turn Signals - (Black & Clear)] $23
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**Two cables? How does this work?
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*[http://store.revivalcycles.com/collections/lighting-1/products/x-arc-signals Smooth and clean LED turn signals] $95/pair
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====Brake fluid reservoir====
 
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*[http://www.rizoma.com/universal/fluid-tanks/en Rizoma]: really clean/minimal design. 50-80 euros.
 
  
 
====Speedometer/Tach====
 
====Speedometer/Tach====
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*[http://bmwmotorcycletech.info/ringgears.htm Speedometer Ratio 3.56/1.318]
 
*[http://cycleplicity.com/products/373610-baja_designs_19_2853_bk__acewell_2853_black_speedometer.aspx?utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_content=373610NOFITMENT&utm_campaign=GSNOFITMENT&adtype=pla&kw=&utm_term=&adpos=1o2&network=g&gclid=CLiLsKfoyboCFcM9QgodOmcAeA Acewell Black]
 
*[http://cycleplicity.com/products/373610-baja_designs_19_2853_bk__acewell_2853_black_speedometer.aspx?utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_content=373610NOFITMENT&utm_campaign=GSNOFITMENT&adtype=pla&kw=&utm_term=&adpos=1o2&network=g&gclid=CLiLsKfoyboCFcM9QgodOmcAeA Acewell Black]
 
*[http://www.dimecitycycles.com/vintage-cafe-racer-caferacer-bobber-brat-chopper-custom-motorcycle-cables-acewell-2853-digital-motorcycle-speedo-speedometer-tach-tachometer-bmw-ace-s11.html Acewell Cable Converter]
 
*[http://www.dimecitycycles.com/vintage-cafe-racer-caferacer-bobber-brat-chopper-custom-motorcycle-cables-acewell-2853-digital-motorcycle-speedo-speedometer-tach-tachometer-bmw-ace-s11.html Acewell Cable Converter]
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*[http://www.trailtech.net/digital-gauges/vapor Vapor Digital] $130
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**[http://www.trailtech.net/digital-gauges/accessories/indicator-light-dashboard Dashboard Lights] $55
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*[http://www.dimecitycycles.com/vintage-cafe-racer-caferacer-bobber-brat-chopper-custom-motorcycle-electronic-parts-mini-stainless-steel-black-face-electronic-mph-kph-speedo-speedometer-60-1632.html 2.5" Black face stainless electronic Speedo] $129
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**[http://www.dimecitycycles.com/vintage-cafe-racer-caferacer-bobber-brat-chopper-custom-motorcycle-electronic-parts-mini-chrome-electronic-tach-tachometer-49-3374.html "Matching Chrome Electronic Tach] $71 (Brian at Dimecity - closest we can come up with)
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*[http://cycleplicity.com/products/373615-baja_designs_19_3962__acewell_3962_black_speedometer_computer.aspx?utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_content=373615NOFITMENT&utm_campaign=GSNOFITMENT&adtype=pla&kw=&utm_term=&adpos=1o4&network=g&gclid=CKygwuSNzLoCFWqCQgodYQsAUg Acewell 3692 Rectangular Digital] $240 w/shipping
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*[http://www.speedhut.com/gauge/GR258-SPEEDO-01/1/Speedometer-Gauge-120mph-programmable Customizable Guages!!!]
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**[http://www.speedhut.com/gauge/GR258-TACH-03/1/Tachometer-Gauge-10K-RPM-mini-Shift-light Tach with billet aluminum black anodized bezel]
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***[http://www.speedhut.com/customizer.i?clid=1511060 4" all in one "Legendary" customized]
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*[http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=527749 Reference for hooking up Gen light]
  
 
====Fuel Tank====
 
====Fuel Tank====
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====Electrical====
 
====Electrical====
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*[http://www.euromotoelectrics.com/EnDuraLast-II-400-Watt-Charging-System-p/edl400-altkit107.htm  Charging system upgrade}
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*[http://www.euromotoelectrics.com/EnDuraLast-II-400-Watt-Charging-System-p/edl400-altkit107.htm  Enduralast charging system upgrade (400 watt)] $300
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**[http://www.euromotoelectrics.com/product-p/edl450-altkit.htm Enduralast 450watt upgrade]
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***[http://moto.zoic.org/r100gs/generator.html Enduralast 450 Install]
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*[http://www.euromotoelectrics.com/EnDuraSpark-Electronic-Ignition-System-BMW-R-70-95-p/edl-boign.htm Ignition system upgrade]
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*[http://shoraipower.com/products?action=vehicle&type=175&make=7366&model=7405&year=7405 Shorai Li-PO battery type] LFX21L6-BS12
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**Length 5.83"
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**Width 3.23"
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**Height 5.51"
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**[http://www.ebay.com/itm/like/331044254031?lpid=82 Ebay] $189.74
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***[http://www.amazon.com/Shorai-Lithium-Kawasaki-Harley-Davidson-LFX21L6-BS12/dp/B008K5NU18/ref=sr_1_1?s=automotive&ie=UTF8&qid=1385527989&sr=1-1&keywords=lfx21l6-bs12]  Amazon $174.95
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***[http://www.braillebattery.com/index.php/braille/product_accessory/b14115_b14115c_aluminum_mount_kit1 Braille battery mount kit for ML14C, 5.8x3.4x5.75]
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*[http://www.euromotoelectrics.com/category-s/192.htm AGM (Absorbed Glass Matt) batteries] $89
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*[http://www.badgertrek.com/motorcycles/TSTLR/lithbat.shtml Build your own Lithium battery pack]
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*[http://www.motoelekt.com Alternative to Euromotoelectrics...great knowledge base]
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====Mufflers====
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[http://www.dimecitycycles.com/vintage-cafe-racer-caferacer-bobber-brat-chopper-custom-motorcycle-exhaust-parts-stainless-steel-reverse-cone-quiet-core-motorcycle-muffler-mc-1500-18-q-ss.html SS 18", 1.5" Diameter] R65 is 35mm/1.37" and 17.5" long
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====Tools====
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*[http://www.northwoodsairheads.com/Tools.html Specialty (inexpensive) Tools]
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====Nuts and bolts - Stainless====
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*[http://www.shawstainless.co.uk Stainless nuts and bolts and parts] Full kit 140 pounds sterling
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*[https://www.motobins.co.uk/index.php Stainless pushrod tubes and axles (rear)]
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*[http://www.motorworks.co.uk/vlive/Home/index.php More kit from England]
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*[http://www.benchmarkworks.com SS front axel (Sturgis, MS)]
  
 
===Nice Builds===
 
===Nice Builds===
 
*[http://www.bikermetric.com/2011/01/cream-motorcycles-cb750-tracker.html Yamaha with metal frame]
 
*[http://www.bikermetric.com/2011/01/cream-motorcycles-cb750-tracker.html Yamaha with metal frame]
 
**This bike also had some controls drilled into handlebar.
 
**This bike also had some controls drilled into handlebar.
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*[http://misterbridges.blogspot.com/search?updated-min=2010-01-01T00:00:00-08:00&updated-max=2011-01-01T00:00:00-08:00&max-results=37 View From The Bridge] Blog, not sure if this is useful but seems kinda interesting.
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*[http://cafebeemers.blogspot.de/ CafeBeemers Blog]
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*[http://anythingbutstockbeemers.blogspot.de/ AnythingButStockBeemers Blog]

Latest revision as of 13:43, 8 September 2014

Reference Material

Tasks

201408:

  • oil filter (SCP) & 20W50 oil
  • joining compound for cylinder/case interface
  • black silicon for pushrod rubber bits.
  • at the cylinder/head gasket GaskeaCinch
  • ?anything in addition to the valve cover gaskets?

Older:

  • Check w/ Gene at Moto Loco on powder coat pricing breakout
    • Guestimate $600-1K for a big pile.
  • Adrian also suggested Shelby at Santa Barbara Industrial Metal Finishing in Goleta, he'd probably be good for non-frame stuff w/out tight tolerances.
  • Gas tank cleaning and lining North Hollywood - $195 + 50% off second tank (for odd HDavidson tanks).

Machining

  • flatten heads to mate w/ valve covers
  • polish cylinders, heads, valve covers
    • Should the stainless pushrod tubes be installed before or after polish?
  • Pushrods have slight score marks mid-length, some worse than others. Huh?
  • Replace valve seats Here

Replacement Parts

  • head gaskets
  • O-Rings for cylinder head (4 small at bolts and 2 big on cylinder)
  • valve cover seals
  • push-rod tube seals
  • center stand springs
  • rear brake switch
  • oil pressure/neutral sender and wire
  • fork cartridge update.
    • fork seals
  • Wheel bearing seals and wheel bearings


Stainless

  • SS Engine mount bolts
  • SS bolt/nut kit

Related Vids and articles

  • Piston ring compression [1]
  • Pushrod tube seal replacement - Part 1 of 3 (Chris fucking Harris)[2]
  • Useful maintenance tips - R80 [3]

Parts

Controls

Levers and Perches

Switches

Throttle

Brakes

More Parts

Brakes

Bars

Lights

Speedometer/Tach

Fuel Tank

Gas Cap - Aviation Style Chrome

Electrical

Mufflers

SS 18", 1.5" Diameter R65 is 35mm/1.37" and 17.5" long

Tools

Nuts and bolts - Stainless

Nice Builds

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