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===500 EXC Issues===
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[http://www.ktm.com/us/enduro/500excusa/highlights.html#.U3PvzK1dV9Y 2014 KTM 500 EXC]
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* cold clutch doesn't fully disengage.
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*1.5L oil capacity, drain it, refill w/ 1.4, and check right hand sight bubble after riding it around. Should be at 1/2. Add a little more oil if low.
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* "shimmy" starting around 50mph which gets a little worse w/ more speed and settles into a cyclic on/off shimmy.
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* 20151122: 1596miles and 59.9hours, changed oil w/ 10/50 Motorex and swapped in "dirt" wheels.
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** Balance the wheels, 3oz in front and 3.75 in rear.
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* 20160425: 2284miles and 84 hours, changed oil w/ 10/50 Motul and cleaned bike.
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* [http://ktmtalk.com/showthread.php?441764-2012-KTM-350-EXC-F-Check-Adj-valve-clearances-(-quot-Building-the-Perfect-Wee-Beasty-quot-)&highlight=eticket KTMTalk thread on adjusting valves (id: emptycea)]
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===Bags===
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* [http://www.altrider.com/altrider-hemisphere-saddlebag-holster-system/pid/1607 Altrider Hemisphere], makes two types, one kinda horseshoe and another closer to a standard double bag. Scope both.
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*[http://www.ktmtwins.com/giant-loop-ktm-zigzag-handlebar-bag GiantLoop ZigZag Handlebar Bag $55] at KTM Twins. Looks like a solid bag and would be nice to cover the bars and store some basics for quick access.
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*[http://www.ortliebusa.com/prodInfo.asp?pid=342&cid=2 Ortlieb Moto Speed Bags] $240, thinking these might be the way to go for the enduro but gotta figure out how to shield them from the exhaust sufficiently.
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===Repair Kit===
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* spare front tube
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* duct tape
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* bailing wire
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* tools
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* spare levers
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* spare shifter/brake
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* tow line (1" webbing)
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*...
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===Repair Kit===
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*[http://dirt-bike-gear.com/tw.html Dirt Bike Gear Tool Wrap]
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*[http://slavensracing.com/shop/wolfy-tool-roll-by-wolfman/ Wolfman toolroll $25@Slavens] Not sure this is the unit I want but it looks decent.
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*[http://www.dirt-bike-gear.com/tools.html DirtBikeGear list]
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*[http://www.ruggedrider.com/kits.html Rugged Rider tool list]
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*billet rear brake lever (RR) and shift lever (Hammerhead)
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*Fender pack
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*front tube
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*tire irons
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*rubber tubing/siphon
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*JB Weld stuff
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*clutch and brake levers
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*shift lever
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*rear brake lever
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*Clutch repair kit?
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*chain breaker
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*bicycle hand pump
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*valve stem remover
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*duct tape
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*safety wire
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*spare nuts/bolts
  
 
===Parts===
 
===Parts===
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KTM Wheels: Front: 21x1.6 Rear: 18x2.15
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RAD Wheels: Front: 21x1.6 Rear: 19x2.15
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Likely Stuff:
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*http://dirttricks.com/shop/regina-orn6-o-ring-chain
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*http://dirttricks.com/shop/13-tooth-ktm-front-sprocket or stick w/ 14tooth?
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*http://dirttricks.com/shop/ktm-front-disk-brake-rotors
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*http://dirttricks.com/shop/ktm-rear-disk-brake-rotor-dirt-tricks-rotors
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*http://dirttricks.com/shop/dirt-tricks-ktm-dome-washer
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*http://dirttricks.com/shop/ktm-45-rear-sprocket
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* Bolts/hardware?
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* Street tires
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* Rear dirt tire
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*[http://sicassracing.com/store/products/tail_lights/sicass_easy_fit/2011_sx_xc_2012-14_all_ktm_easy_fit_under_fender Sicass Under Fender] $90. ...some forum posts commented that the SicAss fender is kinda thin/cheap. I'm gonna try just modifying the stock unit.
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*[http://www.nuetechonlinestore.com/SearchResults.asp?Cat=1 Neutech Tubliss] $160/pair [http://www.ebay.com/itm/like/350872198713?lpid=82 eBay], normally $100/wheel.
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===Vendors:===
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* [http://www.powercellperformance.com/product-category/adventure-1190/ PowerCell Performance] ... small shop, nice hand made stuff...
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* Rottweiler
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* [http://www.hyderacing.com/store/dirtbike/ktm/450_4t.htm Hyde Racing].
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* All KTM Parts: [http://www.rockymountainatvmc.com/v/54/11296/Dirt-Bike-KTM-500-EXC-2014 Rocky Mountain] carries.
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===More Detail and ramblings:===
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====DAMPER:====
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* Most people recommend the Scotts. I went w/ them.
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**[http://www.gprstabilizer.com/prod_v4_dirt GPR steering damper] $495 (KTM EXC 13-14 Fat Bar: 9001-0078) $450@SBM.
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**[http://www.scottsonline.com/Stabilizer_Purchase2.php?Make=Ktm&Model=&Bike_ID=6793&Year=2014&Size=500&Fred=%20Exc&BI_ID=374983 Scotts Damper for KTM]... may trim this package down depending on what happens w/ HDB stuff.
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====HANDGUARDS PLUS...====
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*damper, bar lift, blinkers, fairing, lights...?  heated grips, heated vest plug, GPS/Phone charging, computer mount, GPS/Phone mount, ?
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*HDB: black handguards and black ano supports.
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*[http://www.highwaydirtbikes.com/HDB_Shop/index.php?app=ccp0&ns=display&ref=splash Highway Dirtbikes] has some nice hand guards, windshield, possibly light mounts and blinkers... nice button switches as well... may want to do a fully integrated unit w/ a Scotts Damper.ADVRIDER01 at checkout to get 10% off purchase.
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*[http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=542381&page=5 Pic] of HDB's setup w/ a GPR damper.
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====HEATED GRIPS:====
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**Look into KTM options.
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====LIGHTS:====
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**[http://www.cyclopsadventuresports.com/3000-Lumen-H4-H6-LED-Headlight-bulb-_p_83.html LED upgrade for stock] $60.
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**[http://www.bajadesigns.com/ProductDetail?ItemNumber=490003 Baja Designs Squadron] $300 each.
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**EnduroTech lights look pretty nice and seem to fit in the stock housing w/ low/hi options but may not "throw" as well as they should.
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====FUELING:====
 
* Fuel filter sock, put in tank cap area as a pre-filter.
 
* Fuel filter sock, put in tank cap area as a pre-filter.
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* [http://www.rekluse.com/coreexp.shtml Recluse]: $900 retail, SBM? + about 90min to install.  Do at an oil change.
 
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* [http://www.gprstabilizer.com/prod_v4_dirt GPR steering damper] $495 (KTM EXC 13-14 Fat Bar: 9001-0078) $450@SBM.
 
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* [http://www.globetrottin.com/Skid-plate--Composite-full-coverage-for-KTM-500-EXC-XCW_p_23.html Skid Plate]
 
 
* [http://slavensracing.com/shop/super-mini-fuel-filter-kit-by-golan/ Golan Fuel Filter] $60 for filter and clamps.  Use this to replace the small stock inline filters which tend to clog and stall the bike.
 
* [http://slavensracing.com/shop/super-mini-fuel-filter-kit-by-golan/ Golan Fuel Filter] $60 for filter and clamps.  Use this to replace the small stock inline filters which tend to clog and stall the bike.
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* [http://www.woodyswheelworks.com/KTMMotardWheels.html Woody's Wheels]... ends up around $1900 for a "best" supermoto set of wheels.
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=====TPS stuff:=====
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* [http://www.motionpro.com/motorcycle/partno/11-0058/ LiteLock Rim Locks] Cheap and lighter than stock, light enuf that you shouldn't need to balance the wheels according to some folks.  1.6 front and 2.15 rear.
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*[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yupPUkzs-cM YouTube vid on adjusting TPS w/ a voltmeter]
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* [http://www.doubletakemirror.com/build/ktm DoubleTake Mirrors] around $93 for a pair.  I've also seen mirrors which fold into the hand guards, would like to compare the pros/cons of the Double Takes w/ those.
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You don't need a TPS tool to adjust the TPS. Here's what you do;
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* [http://dirttricks.com/ DirtTricks Cone Washer] and [http://dirttricks.com/product-category/sprockets rear sprockets] and [http://dirttricks.com/product-category/sprockets/front-sprockets/ktm-husaberg-beta front sprockets $37]: apparently these last long and are the way to go.
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* [http://www.mx1west.com/search.aspx?find=ktm+fuel+tank Acerbis Tanks]
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# Remove the seat.
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# Locate the wiring harness just before the gas tank. It will have the rubber cover that is attached via a rubber loop. Open it.
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# Look for the Orange wire with the yellow stripe.
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# Use a small solid piece of wire and slide it down the Orange wire and make contact with the connection.
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# Attached + voltmeter side to the small wire and the - voltmeter wire to the neg battery terminal.
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# turn the key on, turn the bike on (do not start).
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# Read the TPS setting.
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*BestDualSportBikes sells a unit that plugs into the TPS sensor but it's $100.
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*[http://www.tpstool.com/ TPSTool.com] adapter fits onto the TPS for reading with a voltmeter for around $40]
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====RECLUSE Clutch:====
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*[http://www.rekluse.com/coreexp.shtml Recluse Core EXP]: $900 retail, SBM? + about 90min to install.  Do at an oil change.
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====SKID PLATE:====
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* [http://www.globetrottin.com/Skid-plate--Composite-full-coverage-for-KTM-500-EXC-XCW_p_23.html RTE Skid Plate] $140 made of carbon/fiber/epoxy.  It is also apparently so tight to the covers that dirt gets between the plate and moto parts and wears on the moto... bike inner-tube between those points prevents the wear.
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* [http://tmdesignworks.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=325_327_354&products_id=973 TM Designs] skid plate at $119.  Plastic but sounds solid. Try this one if the RTE I have needs replacing.
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====MISC:====
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**[http://dirttricks.com/ DirtTricks Cone Washer] and [http://dirttricks.com/product-category/sprockets rear sprockets] and [http://dirttricks.com/product-category/sprockets/front-sprockets/ktm-husaberg-beta front sprockets $37]: apparently these last long and are the way to go.
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====TANK:====
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*The Acerbis comes recommended and seems to be the only reasonably priced bigger tank.
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**[http://justgastanks.com/product_info.php?products_id=2857 JustGasTanks] has the Ascerbis 5.3gal in natural, $299 + shipping.
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** [http://www.rockymountainatvmc.com/p/2851/41264/KTM-Fuel-Tank?v=11296 KTM 5gallon Tank] Fits: 2014 KTM 500 EXC Part# 1433310005 price: $359.99
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**[http://shop.ktm.com/int_en/powerparts/tanks/19-l-fuel-tank-5.html KTM PowerParts]... not sure how much it is or what parts are needed with it.
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** [http://www.mx1west.com/search.aspx?find=ktm+fuel+tank Acerbis Tanks]
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====Tank: Liquid bladder====
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*...probably just use Nalgene or Platypus bladders but consider lining an MSR Dromedary w/ tank sealant too.
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* [http://justgastanks.com/product_info.php?products_id=2061 6 gallon bladder at JustGasTanks] $449.
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** What about finding soft gas bags for expansion?  Strap near standard tank and drain into tank when it'll take'm?
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*** [http://liquidcontainment.com.au/category/12/Motor-Bike LiquidContainment] Fuel Bladders, look like the best bet so far... and [http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=290034 this ADVRider thread] seems the best so far for info.
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*[http://www.nomadtanks.com.au/Tanks.php NomadTanks] hard tanks for the back fender in a pinch.
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*[http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=135056 ADVRider thread on soft fuel bags.]
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*[http://www.turtlepac.com/products/collapsible-jerry-can-fuel-tanks.html TurtlePac] has some soft bags.
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*[http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=298041&page=3 Nuther ADVRider page on soft fuel bags...]
 
* AP Racing PRF Brake Fluid: Apparently the best for not boiling.
 
* AP Racing PRF Brake Fluid: Apparently the best for not boiling.
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* Tires:
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====TIRES:====
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**[http://www.bikebandit.com/maxxis-maxxcross-desert-it-m7304d-motorcycle-tire Maxxcross Desert IT front] $83 (recommended by Scott).
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**[http://www.bikebandit.com/maxxis-maxxcross-desert-it-m7305d-motorcycle-tire Maxxcross Desert IT rear] gotta figure out what size. ...probably 110/90-19.
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** Scott recommends the AT21 for dirt only, the Desert IT for Dual, and the Dunlop 606 for more street.
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**[http://www.bikebandit.com/metzeler-6-days-extreme-motorcycle-tire Metzeler 6 Days] 21" and 18" only, wear quick on pavement.
 
** [http://www.bikebandit.com/pirelli-mt-21-motorcycle-tire MT21 10/90 tires]: recommended by Chris at SBM. $82F/$93R at BikeBandit
 
** [http://www.bikebandit.com/pirelli-mt-21-motorcycle-tire MT21 10/90 tires]: recommended by Chris at SBM. $82F/$93R at BikeBandit
 
** [http://www.bikebandit.com/dunlop-d606-motorcycle-tire Dunlop D606 tires]: recommended by some at ADVRider. $88F/$90R at BikeBandit.
 
** [http://www.bikebandit.com/dunlop-d606-motorcycle-tire Dunlop D606 tires]: recommended by some at ADVRider. $88F/$90R at BikeBandit.
 
** Adrian suggested running  Trials Tires [http://www.bikebandit.com/dunlop-d803-trials-motorcycle-tire Dunlop D803]
 
** Adrian suggested running  Trials Tires [http://www.bikebandit.com/dunlop-d803-trials-motorcycle-tire Dunlop D803]
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** Chris at SBM recommends the [http://teamdunlop.hookit.com/news/introducing-the-geomax-at81at81-desert-rc/ Dunlop Desert AT81]
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** Chris at SBM recommends the [http://teamdunlop.hookit.com/news/introducing-the-geomax-at81at81-desert-rc/ Dunlop Desert AT81] for pure dirt riding.
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* Wheels:
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====WHEELS:====
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** [http://www.warp9racing.com/sm_wheels_KTM.html Warp9] around $1K for a full setup including rotors and caliper spacer.  These sound like they're a good bang/buck but might not hold up to extreme abuse.
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**Rad Racing in Utah has nice stuff and some good prices...
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** DNA Wheels, similar to the Warp9's.
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**[http://www.woodyswheelworks.com/KTMMotardWheels.html Woody's Wheels]... ends up around $1900 for a "best" supermoto set of wheels... and may not include a rotor or sprocket.
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** Some recommend steering clear of the "Chinese Crap" and going with excels/rad/talons. ...and "this was on cs.
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**[http://www.warp9racing.com/sm_wheels_KTM.html Warp9] around $1K for a full setup including rotors and caliper spacer.  These sound like they're a good bang/buck but might not hold up to extreme abuse.
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17"-Black Excell rims with gold Talon hubs and heavy duty custom spokes. Dunlop race slicks on wheels contact Brandon (209) 577-2873"
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**DNA Wheels, similar to the Warp9's.
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*TUBLESS:
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** [http://nuetech.com/ Tubliss] sounds like the way to go, Phreaner digs'm as does his mechanic buddy Scott. [http://slavensracing.com/shop/tubliss-tubeless-core-tire-system-by-nuetech/ $85@Slavens]
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**[http://www.mx1west.com/mousse-bibs-tubliss.aspx Mousse/Bibs] for going "airless", need to research pros/cons of this more.  Sounds like they're heavier, do wear out, can generate heat...
  
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* [http://www.mx1west.com/mousse-bibs-tubliss.aspx Mousse/Bibs] for going "airless", need to research pros/cons of this more.  Sounds like they're heavier, do wear out, can generate heat...
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====Kickstand====
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* (if the stock ever has issues) [http://www.amazon.com/Pro-Moto-Billet-PMB-01-3007-Kickstand/dp/B008KT3DL6 Pro-Moto-Billet] $153.
  
 
===Forums and Info===
 
===Forums and Info===
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*[http://www.thumpertalk.com/topic/1037795-soon-to-be-500-exc-owner/page-19 ThumperTalk Thread] on 500EXC and references to the [http://www.bajadesigns.com/ProductDetail?ItemNumber=602041 Baja Designs Euro LED fender] being better than the SicAss. [http://www.bajadesigns.com/ProductDetail?ItemNumber=310000 Baja Designs LED upgrade kit $180]
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*[http://www.flatlandracing.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=FR&Product_Code=29-01&Category_Code=29-00 Rear Rack for the EXC]
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*[http://advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=865011&page=29 RoundTheWorldPaul KTM build on ADVRider thread] really thorough re-build/mods.
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* [http://www.omraoffroad.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=40&t=11373&sid=d8eaadf7dbc48d83f148887860b7e8aa Thread] on a thorough go-thru of a new KTM bike by some dewd.
 
* ADVRider forum thread: [http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=746534 500 EXC as a lightweight adventurer]. Lots of good info in this thread.
 
* ADVRider forum thread: [http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=746534 500 EXC as a lightweight adventurer]. Lots of good info in this thread.
 
* ADVRider forum thread: [http://advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=607184&page=223 on LED Lights].
 
* ADVRider forum thread: [http://advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=607184&page=223 on LED Lights].
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* SuperMoto Threads [http://www.supermotojunkie.com/showthread.php?137767-2012-500-EXC-Goin-both-ways Goin Both Ways] and [http://www.supermotojunkie.com/archive/index.php?t-136977.html Project Agent Orange].
 
* SuperMoto Threads [http://www.supermotojunkie.com/showthread.php?137767-2012-500-EXC-Goin-both-ways Goin Both Ways] and [http://www.supermotojunkie.com/archive/index.php?t-136977.html Project Agent Orange].
 
* [http://bestdualsportbikes.com/2014-ktm-500-exc/ BestDualSportBikes] and his [https://www.youtube.com/user/bestdualsportbikes?feature=watch YouTube Channel]
 
* [http://bestdualsportbikes.com/2014-ktm-500-exc/ BestDualSportBikes] and his [https://www.youtube.com/user/bestdualsportbikes?feature=watch YouTube Channel]
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*[http://www.wilddog.za.net/forum/index.php?board=190.100 WildDog.za.net] Forum.

Latest revision as of 17:18, 25 April 2016

2014 KTM 500 EXC

  • 1.5L oil capacity, drain it, refill w/ 1.4, and check right hand sight bubble after riding it around. Should be at 1/2. Add a little more oil if low.
  • 20151122: 1596miles and 59.9hours, changed oil w/ 10/50 Motorex and swapped in "dirt" wheels.
  • 20160425: 2284miles and 84 hours, changed oil w/ 10/50 Motul and cleaned bike.
  • KTMTalk thread on adjusting valves (id: emptycea)

Bags

  • Altrider Hemisphere, makes two types, one kinda horseshoe and another closer to a standard double bag. Scope both.
  • GiantLoop ZigZag Handlebar Bag $55 at KTM Twins. Looks like a solid bag and would be nice to cover the bars and store some basics for quick access.
  • Ortlieb Moto Speed Bags $240, thinking these might be the way to go for the enduro but gotta figure out how to shield them from the exhaust sufficiently.

Repair Kit

  • spare front tube
  • duct tape
  • bailing wire
  • tools
  • spare levers
  • spare shifter/brake
  • tow line (1" webbing)
  • ...

Repair Kit

  • Fender pack
  • front tube
  • tire irons
  • rubber tubing/siphon
  • JB Weld stuff
  • clutch and brake levers
  • shift lever
  • rear brake lever
  • Clutch repair kit?
  • chain breaker
  • bicycle hand pump
  • valve stem remover
  • duct tape
  • safety wire
  • spare nuts/bolts

Parts

KTM Wheels: Front: 21x1.6 Rear: 18x2.15 RAD Wheels: Front: 21x1.6 Rear: 19x2.15

Likely Stuff:

Vendors:

More Detail and ramblings:

DAMPER:

  • Most people recommend the Scotts. I went w/ them.

HANDGUARDS PLUS...

  • damper, bar lift, blinkers, fairing, lights...? heated grips, heated vest plug, GPS/Phone charging, computer mount, GPS/Phone mount, ?
  • HDB: black handguards and black ano supports.
  • Highway Dirtbikes has some nice hand guards, windshield, possibly light mounts and blinkers... nice button switches as well... may want to do a fully integrated unit w/ a Scotts Damper.ADVRIDER01 at checkout to get 10% off purchase.
  • Pic of HDB's setup w/ a GPR damper.

HEATED GRIPS:

    • Look into KTM options.

LIGHTS:

FUELING:

  • Fuel filter sock, put in tank cap area as a pre-filter.
  • Golan Fuel Filter $60 for filter and clamps. Use this to replace the small stock inline filters which tend to clog and stall the bike.
TPS stuff:

You don't need a TPS tool to adjust the TPS. Here's what you do;

  1. Remove the seat.
  2. Locate the wiring harness just before the gas tank. It will have the rubber cover that is attached via a rubber loop. Open it.
  3. Look for the Orange wire with the yellow stripe.
  4. Use a small solid piece of wire and slide it down the Orange wire and make contact with the connection.
  5. Attached + voltmeter side to the small wire and the - voltmeter wire to the neg battery terminal.
  6. turn the key on, turn the bike on (do not start).
  7. Read the TPS setting.
  • BestDualSportBikes sells a unit that plugs into the TPS sensor but it's $100.
  • TPSTool.com adapter fits onto the TPS for reading with a voltmeter for around $40]

RECLUSE Clutch:

  • Recluse Core EXP: $900 retail, SBM? + about 90min to install. Do at an oil change.

SKID PLATE:

  • RTE Skid Plate $140 made of carbon/fiber/epoxy. It is also apparently so tight to the covers that dirt gets between the plate and moto parts and wears on the moto... bike inner-tube between those points prevents the wear.
  • TM Designs skid plate at $119. Plastic but sounds solid. Try this one if the RTE I have needs replacing.

MISC:

TANK:

  • The Acerbis comes recommended and seems to be the only reasonably priced bigger tank.

Tank: Liquid bladder

TIRES:

WHEELS:

    • Rad Racing in Utah has nice stuff and some good prices...
    • Woody's Wheels... ends up around $1900 for a "best" supermoto set of wheels... and may not include a rotor or sprocket.
    • Warp9 around $1K for a full setup including rotors and caliper spacer. These sound like they're a good bang/buck but might not hold up to extreme abuse.
    • DNA Wheels, similar to the Warp9's.
  • TUBLESS:
    • Tubliss sounds like the way to go, Phreaner digs'm as does his mechanic buddy Scott. $85@Slavens
    • Mousse/Bibs for going "airless", need to research pros/cons of this more. Sounds like they're heavier, do wear out, can generate heat...

Kickstand

Forums and Info

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